Zine Union Catalog Call, Nov. 22, 2014

Zine Union Catalog call
November 22, 2014, 2pm EST

Present: Milo, Jenna, Honor, Elissah, Christina, Amanda, Eric, Rhonda
Absent: Lily
Notetaker: Rhonda

Christina: synopsis of catalog models.
• Works at Columbia
• Add some notes if you want, it’s just what I’m working with
• RDF: moving on with it?
• Create and support URIs so we can create our own
• Interfaces – prob not change that much on the front-end, but we need to figure out what to do on the back end
• Transform records to whatever xZinecorex schema to be
• Xslt
• Service scripts so that when we pull out source data it will automatically get translated
• Need input from community about elements and which ones
• Need a review period
• Editing period for attribute names, URIs, with date extensions as needed, rather than Christina coming in and writing it.
• SQL-based
• Radis (?) as a data store (fact check)
• Hope: zine catalogers to go in and edit data
• Homegrown hydra heads at Columbia, but don’t know much. Collective Access?
• What level to catalog
• Indexing cataloging interface: Solr, Blacklight, but up to other suggestions
• Mapping at Solr index level and creating an interface with them? Want to offer records back. Need Eric’s expertise
• Interface for md editing, same issue
• Auto-suggest – could be nice if we create our own form/genre term, have file where it is automatically queried from interface
• Microdata—getting stuff out to search engines

Milo: question: would 1 take more dev time than the other? Defer to other more seasoned folks
• Decide on schema elements now
• [my connexion was bad here, so I may have missed something]
• Let’s ask Amanda!
• Christina; updates won’t be automatic, propagate it through the system until we can have system where they can load it. We would love to be able for folks to add changes.
• Yahoo group listserv: should have specific listervs for schema/zine cat, etc., someone to act as shepherd to review at next public meeting to report back to the group. There would be a lot of switching back and forth b/w subject term. – need to have a place to discuss
• Milo: Wikipedia talk function? Yes, good example
• JF: Decide if we suggest that all zine libraries adopt one thesaurus. Do we want to do this?
• Christina: if facets will work, we need everyone to agree. At first, you can use whatever subj auth you want, and then during ingest, we will assign term= a lot of magical mapping. How? Lcsh in fast, add fast records, there are a lot of mapping tools you can use that work pretty well, only facet in our discovery layer using fast, but that means that they must use a known vocab
• Text string mapping for local subj, but that has lower accuracy
• JF Add to survey – anchor, lcsh, local
• Eric: independent of larger stuff, worry about what we’re indexing. No matter what decisions we make, they’re a lot of decisions that need to be made afterward
• Christina: not a game changer, yes.
• Eric: models distinct of what underlying tech is going to be – then what the tech is, what interchange will be. Q’s for librarians of the group, what should be the data structure for the catalog.
• JF: Challenges of Ava Gardner model: [my connection starts getting bad here]: Christina: identifiers need to be figured out, whether or not we are linking multiple authorities or local authorities
• Christina: large community of linked data folks that will win grants, etc.
• Eric: distributed authority, distrib storage of centralized [something?].
• [….connection problem]
• bibframe is out of the scope of this, but it could be interesting to see what has worked and failed so far. Dissertations – python and other jargon
• Christina: what I’d like to see come out: use zine list serv (?) to make decisions to move on: schema, data store, interface.
• JF: should we pose this to the group if they want to hear all this stuff or if it’s just noise, or keep it small.
• Action item: to create a list serv: @QZAP
• Amanda: deadline to figure out which technology to follow. By the end of the year?
• JF: want to get survey out and back before we have a tech deadline, but not sure if which model we choose will be affected by questionnaires, but endo f year might be a good reality
• —shitty connection—-
• Elissah: Dec 31, 2014 11:59pm, suggested time
• We want Ava Gardner Model
• Milo: 20, 40, 80
• Christina: Linode is good, CU will not host. Be careful of what agreements, limits we agree on.
• JF: long-term, might do something short-term, and then we get a million dollars…Christina: we should just use Linode. Eric: find somewhere cheap to host. Not openflows to donate, but giving everyone access would be organizationally difficult, security issues. JF: budget: $10 vs $80. Eric: Do cheapest plan as possible. JF: willing to personally give $100. Christina: Kickstarter campaign? Eric: Roll yr own donation thing, not amazon (who owns kickstarter… who knew?)
• —shitty connection—f this, man!!
• In-person work session: Chicago
• Elissah: taking a break this year, but maybe she should go somewhere
• Honor’s innernets totally broke. Are we recording?
• JF: Do we need to just get surveys out and set another meeting time. Start estimating workflows. Need to figure out who as well as how much. Christina: if we got a grant, would that affect when you start a phd program? Christina: I would like to set some time aside to start data munching. I have datasets and need to schedule time, need a workout partner to keep in check. Bad about falling into rabbit holes. JF and Rhonda: help with it. JF wants Christina to get paid too, but Christina says wait to see if other folks have mad skills too. JF making sure she’s not begging on the street
• Linode– Was the name of the hosting folks (Christina) – what control over the virtual machine do they give you. Shared hosting (not sure about private hosting). For Milo, we have virtual server that we have some control over. Not sure about enterprise-level control, though. Good feedback and supportive of developers. Eric: has it good with one host, but expensive (post-funding possibility); has some names of virtual servers we could have total control over, but let’s compare Linode to their option, go based on price → action item: Who is going to do that?
• NEXT STPES: Same time every 2 weeks to discuss what’s going on, and can be a place to make decisions. Not a working day. Milo: but would like a working day to take apart xzinecorex and put it back together. Christina: use time on call to get dirty on schema.
• JF: general hate of the goog. http://zinelibraries.info/wiki/union-catalog-work-space/ also our zl work space.
• Eric: likes etherpad, ethercalc. spreadsheets can live at https://calc.mayfirst.org/
• IRC?
• Bit bucket – Christina give her login
• JF: one we just started using at barnard https://asana.com/ jira.
• Redmine, Track (confusing), Mantis (ancient)→ let’s try redmine to start. Easy to install.
• Would redmine take the place of a listserv? Naw. Keep the usual email lists going to minimize tech anxiety
• Linode: do we want to add it to Milo’s account: how to fund it. 1 year at $20/month = $240. Use paypal to get $ into an account, would like to have someone who has experience with linode to get it set up. Give $ to Milo, JF to ask the zinelibrarians list.
• Meet again in 3 weeks and talk and work or both = Dec 13. At that point, let’s do every other week, and accept that not everyone will be free every time.


Jenna jumping in to take notes for Rhonda

alternative from Eric’s conference:

  • smash the database model
  • GitHub
  • BIBFRAME: Jeremy Nelson, Colorado College

create a new list? survey zine librarians to see (everyone invited?)

Get surveys out

Ava Gardner wins!

Linode (?) for hosting $10-80/month, webfaction? tag (when we have funding)

  • we want to have root
  • compare linode and webfaction (virtual server), choose based on price
  • raise money on zine librarians list

ALA Midwinter: talk to the zine pavilion people about quimby’s event


  • Rhonda can help wrangle
  • 12/13 Saturday at 2pm ET
  • need to codify zinecore

BitBucket, Assemble SVN, Jira, Trello, Redmine, Track, Mantis


Call for potential hosts for ZLuC 2015

Now calling for submissions for potential host locations for the 2015 Zine Librarians (Un)Conference, aka ZL(u)C. ZL(u)C is an inspirational and super fun gathering of people who care deeply about zines, their preservation, and their ability to change lives for the better. Past unconferences have been held in Seattle, Portland, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Iowa City, Durham, and now … your town??

If you’re interested in hosting the 2015 edition of zine librarian “nerd summer camp”, please fill out the form here: http://goo.gl/forms/4XUShBBDJN. The questions on the form should give you a good sense of what we’re looking for in a host location.

The deadline this year is early, December 31 2014, so that we can announce the location and dates by the end of January. Please email (violetfox at the gmails) with questions about the selection process or the unconference itself, we’ll be happy to discuss.

Thanks! –this year’s ZL(u)C selection committee: Violet Fox, Kelly Wooten, Celina Williams, and Joshua Barton

This is where the magic has happened!

Past locations of the Zine Librarians UnConference

ZLUC Travel Grant 2014

For the third consecutive year, zine librarians & their friends are raising money to subsidize a librarian of color’s participation in the Zine Librarians Unconference. Here is the application form. Applications due June 6, 2014.


This year’s conference will be held at Duke University’s Sallie Bingham Center for Women’s History & Culture July 18-20.

So far librarians have contributed $215 and $217.25 was raised at the NYC Feminist Zine Fest on March 1st for a total of $487.25. The Sallie Bingham Center will cover the winner’s single dorm room, as well.

Contribute via PayPal to jennafree@bigfoot.cxx. For other options and more info, email leslzine@gmail.cxx. (Wherein xx = om)

Wanna host the next Zine Librarian (un)Conference?

Interested in hosting the next ZL(u)C* in 2014? The Deciderer Committee needs some more information to do the decidering. Although all of these areas are important, be aware that inexpensive housing, easy access from other cities, and collaboration are among our top priorities.

Please answer the following questions (below the fold) and email your answers to kellymce@gmail.com by January 30, February 9, 2014. We hope to announce the next host by mid-February.

*The  Zine Librarian (un)Conference. You can see the proceedings of previous ZL(u)Cs here.

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Zine Libraries Virtual Meetup set for Tues Sept 10 at 7 PM EDT / 6 PM CDT / 4 PM PDT


Zine Libraries Virtual Meetup set
for Tues Sept 10 at 7 PM EDT / 6 PM CDT / 4 PM PDT

Book mark the following link for information on how to connect to our meetup session.
Instructions and links about how to connect will be updated on this page:


Our intention is to reach out to people that want to connect in-between unconferences. We are especially interested in connecting with people that work with homegrown zine libraries and aren’t necessarily able to make it out to our events.

Hope to see you soon!

Zine Creators- We need your input on interlibrary loan copy policies!

If you create zines, would you mind filling out this survey?

Link to Survey

Barnard Zine Library is surveying zine makers to find out what their preferences are when it comes to making inter library loan copy requests of their own zines available to patrons.

The survey investigates the possibility of copying all or part of a zine to make available to a patron who can’t make it to the physical location of the library where the zine is located. This could be because the patron lives in another state or because the patron is a prisoner, for example.

The survey also asks some questions specific to how to handle inter library loan copy requests for prisoners. If zines are photocopied for prisoners,  should some of the contact information of the zine creator be blocked out? Or should it remain?

Librarians need help understanding how to handle inter-library loan copy requests in a way that respects the zine makers!

Thanks for your time! These results could help all zine librarians get a sense of what zine makers want when it comes to inter library loan copy policies.

Thanks to Barnard Zine Library for putting this survey together!

You have until August 28th to fill out the survey. Please spread the word and share with other zine creators!

Join us for a Virtual Meetup for Barefoot Zine Librarians

The zine collection that will be the basis of Emergent Zine Library

This is a photo of the zine collection in my living room that will soon turn into a pop up zine library experiment in Kansas City, MO.

During the 2013 Zine Librarian’s Unconference, I became aware of a desire to connect more with the zine librarians group. I wanted more opportunities to share support, resources, and solidarity with other people who are making zine libraries happen. I also knew I might not be able to attend the next conference in person, and this made me desire more online possibilities for sharing and support.

Milo also took interest in this idea, and he contacted me about arranging our first zine librarian’s virtual meetup.

The result is that we will attempt to use google hangout to host a virtual meetup for barefoot zine librarians. “Barefoot” libraries and librarians are ones that are usually autonomous and not affiliated with public or academic libraries. Infoshops, Community Centers, zine libraries in your garage – they are all relevant!

Right now we are choosing the dates. You can help by passing the word onto other barefoot zine librarians and marking your availability on the doodle poll.



Hope to see you at the meeting!