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Session 1a: Zine Union Catalog Update, ZLuC

In Milwaukee we decided we needed a metadata standard that is interchangeable between folks who work as barefoot librarians and academic and public libraries.

Last year (2014 in NC): we will have breakout groups. Since September we’ve had a core group (Jenna, Milo, Honor, Rhonda, Alyssa, Eric, Christina), and we’ve had teleconferences/work sessions every 2 weeks

Notes are all on etherpad:

Current conversation: we’re ready to start building a union catalog and wondering what that means:

Soliciting funds for server space ($140 of $240 annual fee through in-house fundraising)

Taking xxZINECORExx and mapped it to Dublin Core terms. Currently lives at GitHub: ,

Each of the fields has a scope note in the field.

Things that got codified during our work:

Genre terms in terms of Content and Form of material:

Form vs. Content:

Type, carrier type: print, audio, video, e-zine

Content: subject matter (e.g., cook zine, diy zine, do we want hierarchies?, fanzine, literary zine) –> we need to work on equivalencies and/or hierarchies… e.g., Parent zines and sub topic: mama zine, papa zine

Genre form: 24-hour zine, APA zines (Amateur press association)

We would like to have a preferred term for things that is local to an institution but refers to the preferred vocabulary term.

Pull from different vocabularies like local taxonomies

Anchor archive vocabulary is already accessible via linked open data (thanks to: ____ — please fill in the name?)

There was a need for scope notes to allow for inclusive catalog with different vocabularies so we added scope notes for terms for disambiguate

Difference institutions will share all their information — collection metadata that will be ingested into the union catalog. In local catalog, there may be more or less fields but can be individualized for a local library. In essence, every record will probably need to be touched at the local level.

Question: a lot of zine libraries haven’t cataloged all their zines. It’s a great resource but it would be great for crowd-sourcing. Yes… this is cooperative cataloging — you add titles and you can download your titles too.

small archives that don’t have professional archivists and this might help folks who don’t have staff to catalog — we could help with technical aspects or funding, even. Scope notes should help to make the ease of access without a lot of training. Should be able to prepopulate and make it easily ingestible.

Serials vs monographs — flexibility to use the metadata and tweak it to work in their own collection. Like use a serial record even if you only have one of the issues.

We don’t have a lot of required fields so if you have minimal data, you can still participate.

Provenance to the cataloging itself: We would have institutional/administrative metadata so we could tell who created the record.

Platform to use? We will probably start that this afternoon… might be one that already exists (Collective Access? or our own?) — need some tech consultations starting tomorrow too.

**Need linked data specialist, technical folks. We will share the link to the email listserv.

**Outreach would be super important — make a zine about it. Jude is moved by all this work by all this content and its creators. Resources: making the most of all of our resources and so are all of the people who work on them, makes it that much more powerful.

**Sequel to xxZINECORExx zine that Milo did a few years ago.

Allison at U. of Florida: published an article on cataloging zines in RDA: project of articulating why what we do as cataloging zines matter — if you already know the theory and need to share the greater work and empower people to use the great knowledge they have of their collections and how that enriches the greater knowledge of the collective collections of everyone.

** show locations of zines like worldcat but not evil.

**Readerware (?) separate databases for books and periodicals and zines are subhierarchy of periodical. 2009 link to what is a zine and what is not a zine. Jenna to post on twitter now. Zine vs. chapbook? Has an ISSN? Not a zine.

What do we consider a zine? Fanzines? (Riverside that focus on scifi zines).

NEXT STEPS: we might be at the point for needing a tech consultant to guide group toward grants to apply for.

human resource: coding/paying for work; how do we communicate to let everyone work outside of silos.

Jude: wants to work on zine vol. 2 whenever that happens/matters

***How do we keep updated? we don’t post much on the listserv, should we? Or should we post a summary of zineunioncatalog meetings to the and provide a link to the listserv as well… as long as we include pictures of cats.


Zine Union Catalog Call, Nov. 22, 2014

Zine Union Catalog call
November 22, 2014, 2pm EST

Present: Milo, Jenna, Honor, Elissah, Christina, Amanda, Eric, Rhonda
Absent: Lily
Notetaker: Rhonda

Christina: synopsis of catalog models.
• Works at Columbia
• Add some notes if you want, it’s just what I’m working with
• RDF: moving on with it?
• Create and support URIs so we can create our own
• Interfaces – prob not change that much on the front-end, but we need to figure out what to do on the back end
• Transform records to whatever xZinecorex schema to be
• Xslt
• Service scripts so that when we pull out source data it will automatically get translated
• Need input from community about elements and which ones
• Need a review period
• Editing period for attribute names, URIs, with date extensions as needed, rather than Christina coming in and writing it.
• SQL-based
• Radis (?) as a data store (fact check)
• Hope: zine catalogers to go in and edit data
• Homegrown hydra heads at Columbia, but don’t know much. Collective Access?
• What level to catalog
• Indexing cataloging interface: Solr, Blacklight, but up to other suggestions
• Mapping at Solr index level and creating an interface with them? Want to offer records back. Need Eric’s expertise
• Interface for md editing, same issue
• Auto-suggest – could be nice if we create our own form/genre term, have file where it is automatically queried from interface
• Microdata—getting stuff out to search engines

Milo: question: would 1 take more dev time than the other? Defer to other more seasoned folks
• Decide on schema elements now
• [my connexion was bad here, so I may have missed something]
• Let’s ask Amanda!
• Christina; updates won’t be automatic, propagate it through the system until we can have system where they can load it. We would love to be able for folks to add changes.
• Yahoo group listserv: should have specific listervs for schema/zine cat, etc., someone to act as shepherd to review at next public meeting to report back to the group. There would be a lot of switching back and forth b/w subject term. – need to have a place to discuss
• Milo: Wikipedia talk function? Yes, good example
• JF: Decide if we suggest that all zine libraries adopt one thesaurus. Do we want to do this?
• Christina: if facets will work, we need everyone to agree. At first, you can use whatever subj auth you want, and then during ingest, we will assign term= a lot of magical mapping. How? Lcsh in fast, add fast records, there are a lot of mapping tools you can use that work pretty well, only facet in our discovery layer using fast, but that means that they must use a known vocab
• Text string mapping for local subj, but that has lower accuracy
• JF Add to survey – anchor, lcsh, local
• Eric: independent of larger stuff, worry about what we’re indexing. No matter what decisions we make, they’re a lot of decisions that need to be made afterward
• Christina: not a game changer, yes.
• Eric: models distinct of what underlying tech is going to be – then what the tech is, what interchange will be. Q’s for librarians of the group, what should be the data structure for the catalog.
• JF: Challenges of Ava Gardner model: [my connection starts getting bad here]: Christina: identifiers need to be figured out, whether or not we are linking multiple authorities or local authorities
• Christina: large community of linked data folks that will win grants, etc.
• Eric: distributed authority, distrib storage of centralized [something?].
• [….connection problem]
• bibframe is out of the scope of this, but it could be interesting to see what has worked and failed so far. Dissertations – python and other jargon
• Christina: what I’d like to see come out: use zine list serv (?) to make decisions to move on: schema, data store, interface.
• JF: should we pose this to the group if they want to hear all this stuff or if it’s just noise, or keep it small.
• Action item: to create a list serv: @QZAP
• Amanda: deadline to figure out which technology to follow. By the end of the year?
• JF: want to get survey out and back before we have a tech deadline, but not sure if which model we choose will be affected by questionnaires, but endo f year might be a good reality
• —shitty connection—-
• Elissah: Dec 31, 2014 11:59pm, suggested time
• We want Ava Gardner Model
• Milo: 20, 40, 80
• Christina: Linode is good, CU will not host. Be careful of what agreements, limits we agree on.
• JF: long-term, might do something short-term, and then we get a million dollars…Christina: we should just use Linode. Eric: find somewhere cheap to host. Not openflows to donate, but giving everyone access would be organizationally difficult, security issues. JF: budget: $10 vs $80. Eric: Do cheapest plan as possible. JF: willing to personally give $100. Christina: Kickstarter campaign? Eric: Roll yr own donation thing, not amazon (who owns kickstarter… who knew?)
• —shitty connection—f this, man!!
• In-person work session: Chicago
• Elissah: taking a break this year, but maybe she should go somewhere
• Honor’s innernets totally broke. Are we recording?
• JF: Do we need to just get surveys out and set another meeting time. Start estimating workflows. Need to figure out who as well as how much. Christina: if we got a grant, would that affect when you start a phd program? Christina: I would like to set some time aside to start data munching. I have datasets and need to schedule time, need a workout partner to keep in check. Bad about falling into rabbit holes. JF and Rhonda: help with it. JF wants Christina to get paid too, but Christina says wait to see if other folks have mad skills too. JF making sure she’s not begging on the street
• Linode– Was the name of the hosting folks (Christina) – what control over the virtual machine do they give you. Shared hosting (not sure about private hosting). For Milo, we have virtual server that we have some control over. Not sure about enterprise-level control, though. Good feedback and supportive of developers. Eric: has it good with one host, but expensive (post-funding possibility); has some names of virtual servers we could have total control over, but let’s compare Linode to their option, go based on price → action item: Who is going to do that?
• NEXT STPES: Same time every 2 weeks to discuss what’s going on, and can be a place to make decisions. Not a working day. Milo: but would like a working day to take apart xzinecorex and put it back together. Christina: use time on call to get dirty on schema.
• JF: general hate of the goog. also our zl work space.
• Eric: likes etherpad, ethercalc. spreadsheets can live at
• IRC?
• Bit bucket – Christina give her login
• JF: one we just started using at barnard jira.
• Redmine, Track (confusing), Mantis (ancient)→ let’s try redmine to start. Easy to install.
• Would redmine take the place of a listserv? Naw. Keep the usual email lists going to minimize tech anxiety
• Linode: do we want to add it to Milo’s account: how to fund it. 1 year at $20/month = $240. Use paypal to get $ into an account, would like to have someone who has experience with linode to get it set up. Give $ to Milo, JF to ask the zinelibrarians list.
• Meet again in 3 weeks and talk and work or both = Dec 13. At that point, let’s do every other week, and accept that not everyone will be free every time.


Jenna jumping in to take notes for Rhonda

alternative from Eric’s conference:

  • smash the database model
  • GitHub
  • BIBFRAME: Jeremy Nelson, Colorado College

create a new list? survey zine librarians to see (everyone invited?)

Get surveys out

Ava Gardner wins!

Linode (?) for hosting $10-80/month, webfaction? tag (when we have funding)

  • we want to have root
  • compare linode and webfaction (virtual server), choose based on price
  • raise money on zine librarians list

ALA Midwinter: talk to the zine pavilion people about quimby’s event


  • Rhonda can help wrangle
  • 12/13 Saturday at 2pm ET
  • need to codify zinecore

BitBucket, Assemble SVN, Jira, Trello, Redmine, Track, Mantis


Join us for a Virtual Meetup for Barefoot Zine Librarians

The zine collection that will be the basis of Emergent Zine Library

This is a photo of the zine collection in my living room that will soon turn into a pop up zine library experiment in Kansas City, MO.

During the 2013 Zine Librarian’s Unconference, I became aware of a desire to connect more with the zine librarians group. I wanted more opportunities to share support, resources, and solidarity with other people who are making zine libraries happen. I also knew I might not be able to attend the next conference in person, and this made me desire more online possibilities for sharing and support.

Milo also took interest in this idea, and he contacted me about arranging our first zine librarian’s virtual meetup.

The result is that we will attempt to use google hangout to host a virtual meetup for barefoot zine librarians. “Barefoot” libraries and librarians are ones that are usually autonomous and not affiliated with public or academic libraries. Infoshops, Community Centers, zine libraries in your garage – they are all relevant!

Right now we are choosing the dates. You can help by passing the word onto other barefoot zine librarians and marking your availability on the doodle poll.


Hope to see you at the meeting!




xZINECOREx timeline

Suggestion via UStream follower: design catalog for patrons, not for catalogers.

  • Front end and back end will be different, so perhaps this isn’t a concern
  • Multiple front ends could conceivably be available
  • Once the data is in place, there’s a lot we can do–table this part of the discussion for now?

Next steps / timeline

  • Apply for a Knight Foundation grant for development and infrastructure: DUE BY DUE DATE, JENNA & KELSEY and we hope others!
  • Develop QZAP as prototype: DUE JANUARY 1, ERIC & MILO. Lots of people willing to help with user testing.
  • Use Interference Archive catalog as prototype for sharing data
  • Research other grants: DUE ?
  • Plans for export import from CSV files, LibraryThing, MARC (from data dump), etc. (What are the others?) : Survey cataloging systems on Zine Librarians list DUE BEFORE SEPTEMBER 1, HONOR & CREW
  • Born xZINECOREx cataloging guidelines? Other documentation, as needed.
  • Union catalog admin for the user side: VIOLET

MKE ZLUC happened

Check out the notes from the Zine Librarians Unconference held in Milwaukee earlier this month. Go to the schedule page to see what was discussed and to read any notes posted.

Two highlights

Call for Workshops: 2nd Zine Librarians (un)Conference

Call for Workshops: Zine Librarians (un)Conference, ZL(u)C 2011

Milwaukee, Wisconsin

July 8-9, 2011

Calling all zine collectors, information activists, underground bibliographers and barefoot librarians! Were seeking librarians of all stripes to lead a workshop or discussion at the 2nd bi-annual (un)conference of zine librarians!

We are interested in hosting informational skillshares that might include hands-on activities, or showcase what your library has accomplished. Your workshop could describe a task, approach, or scheme that would be of interest to fellow zine librarians. We are open to new ways of approaching zine librarianship, whether your collection is housed in an institutional, public, or community library or archive.

Workshops will be scheduled into the rest of the events that will occur on July 8 and 9, 2011 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Facilitated discussions and other events will also be worked into the schedule of events by participants at the conference, in the style of bar camp and other unconferences.

Scheduled events will include a zine reading (the culmination of the Orderly Disorder: Librarian Zinesters in Circulation Tour) and tours of local zine libraries, including the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukees Special Collections and the Queer Zine Archive Project.

The first Zine Librarians (un)Conference was held in Seattle, Washington in March 2009 at Zine Archive and Publishing Project (ZAPP), to great success. The second bi-annual (un)conference is to be held July 8-9, 2011 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. For more information, or to propose a workshop, visit

Call for Participants- One Day Zine Librarians Mini Conference (ODZLMC)!

A group of zine librarians have started spontaneously planning a one day conference to talk about zines in libraries of all kinds on Monday, August 30th, the day after the Portland Zine Symposium wraps up. The conference will be held at the North Portland Multnomah County Library branch at 512 N. Killingsworth St from 10:30-5:30pm. The tentative plan is to have a half day conference and a half day work session to accomplish some tasks that would be a benefit to zine librarians. One idea was to gather all of the zine related policies in one spot so that people had access to them. Another idea was to collectively add a bunch of entries to Zinewiki. Or… ? This conference is open to anyone interested in zines in libraries/archives/infoshops/etc; not just card carrying librarians!

A planning wiki has been set up- please register if you’d like to attend and share your ideas with us.

We’d love to hear all of your great ideas.

Zine Librarians (un)Conference in Seattle, March 14-15

Zine librarians, collectors and creators are invited to the Richard Hugo House and the Zine Archive and Publishing Project for two days of discussion and presentation centered around the collecting and organizing of zines; be they in libraries, archives, infoshops, basements, or living rooms.

Blending a traditional conference with the Unconference model, this gathering will be participatory and open. Workshops will be scheduled, and discussions of cataloging, organizing and promoting zine collections are expected, among other topics. All members of the zine community, including non-librarians, are invited to join in and take part.

An outline of events and further information is available on the event’s wiki: Please visit the wiki to register your attendance, help plan the events, and volunteer.


March 14 and 15, 2009
10 am – 5 pm
Location: Zine Archive Publishing Project (ZAPP) at The Richard Hugo House
1634 11th Avenue
Seattle, WA 98122

The event is FREE, but there may be a small, voluntary donation for food and/or materials.


To register to attend the (un)conference and join the discussion, visit the wiki:

REGISTER DEADLINE: March 6th, Friday.


7pm March 14th at Cafe Allegro (1408 NE 42nd Street,between University Way and 15th Ave). Join zine creators, readers and librarians in this celebration of self-publishing. If you’d like to read, please sign up here!


If you are interested in leading a one-hour workshop during the conference, please submit the following information by creating a page for it on this wiki and listing it on the proposals page by Friday, February 28th, 2009:

1. The title of your workshop
2. Your name and a very brief biography of all workshop leaders (1-3 sentences each)
3. A brief (100 word) summary of topics you would address
4. Any tools, equipment or technology that would be required
5. Add your proposal to this list:
1. Proposals
2. And then create a page for it (You’ll need to be logged into the wiki to do so) and link to it. (As in the example of Zine Anatomy)

Guidelines for workshops: We are interested in hosting workshops that will be informational, how-to’s and describe a task, skill or scheme that another zine library would find useful. This could be hands-on, or a presentation of what your library has done well. Note: This is a call only for workshops that require extensive pre-planning, are practical in nature, or require specific materials. We will also have facilitated discussions at the conference, but those will be selected at the conference itself. List of potential discussion topics. Please add yours!

For more information about the Zine Librarians (Un)Conference, contact: Alycia Sellie,


Laura posted a query to the zinelibrarians list about if folks would be interested in having a zine librarians gathering, perhaps as part of the Madison Zine Fest in October.

I’m curious who all would be willing and able to attend such an event in Madison, and also what other cities and times would be possible for a Zine Librarians Conference or Unconference. And also who would be willing and able to help organize such a thing.

Please respond in the comments or write to me (Jenna) directly zines @ barnard dot exx (not really xes).

To be clear, what we’re soliciting comments on are:

  • Would you like to attend a zine librarians con/uncon?
  • If location is an issue, which locations are good for you?
  • Do you have a preference for specific dates or the general time of year?
  • Would you help organize the event?

Though feel free to say whatever you want!

Minutes from ALA Midwinter meetup and question

Hi There zine librarian

Jenna, Alycia and I met on Saturday January 12th at the Philadelphia Convention Center.

We discussed:


Independent Publishing Resource Center

Zine fests are they dead?

Best place to buy zines in Philadelphia: book store Wooden Shoe .

Biggest thing we discussedis there aneed for a zine librarian summit? And where should we have them?One in the Midwest? And one on the westcoast, perhaps at the PDX Zine Symposium? (This year’s PDX Zine Symposium is August 2nd and 3rd-per IPRC). Readers and participants any thoughts or ideason this topic?

Respectfully submitted,

Laural Winter, Multnomah County Library